The news media and my Facebook feed are full of stories about the horrific mistreatment of families and small children at the border.
Children are dying of disease and neglect. One seven-year-old girl died of dehydration--she wasn’t given enough water to drink! A four-month old was separated from his family. Hundreds of people are packed into shelters built to hold a fraction of the number crammed in…the horror stories go on and on.
From Lawyers for Good Government, we learn that
The Trump administration argued in court this week that detained migrant children do not require basic hygiene products (like soap and toothbrushes) to be held in “safe and sanitary” conditions. Lawyers who recently interviewed detained children report that kids are living in “traumatic and dangerous” conditions – insufficient food and water, going weeks without bathing, kids as young as 7 years old being told to care for the babies and toddlers.
Our delusional and mentally-ill President has no intention of doing anything to ameliorate the humanitarian crisis he has created. In interviews, he insists Obama began the family separation policy (he didn’t–the only time his administration removed children from their families was when they were believed to be in danger) and simply denies what numerous reports have documented.
Meanwhile, rather than calling on Congress or all those self-proclaimed “Christians” to intervene, conservative apologists attack those who–like AOC–call these facilities what they clearly are: concentration camps.
There is no ambiguity about what is happening. The heartless people who are defending the documented abuse and inhumanity are telling the rest of us who–and what– they are.
“Fox & Friends”co-host Brian Kilmeade showed his support for President Donald Trump’s “zero tolerance” approach to border policy, adding that the migrant children who have been separated from their families“aren’t our kids.”
“Like it or not, these aren’t our kids,” said Kilmeade on Friday’s episode of the Fox News morning show. “Show them compassion, but it’s not like he’s doing this to the people of Idaho or Texas. These are people from another country and now people are saying that they’re more important than people in our country who are paying taxes and who have needs as well.”
Is this really what America has come to?
Are we really prepared to defend unforgivable and inhumane treatment so long as the objects of that treatment aren’t “our” kids? Are we content to be like the “good Germans” who wouldn’t personally have taken their Jewish neighbors to the camps, but who were quite willing to close their eyes and pretend not to see the atrocities around them?
This isn’t about immigration policy. Good people can disagree about border security, about the criteria for allowing migrants to cross the border, about the number of refugees America should resettle. Good people do not and cannot excuse callous, barbaric, inhumane treatment of children and families trying to escape desperate conditions–conditions that our country has some measure of responsibility for creating and that our ignoramus President has made worse by cutting off aid that would to some extent ameliorate the conditions they are fleeing.
This humanitarian travesty is being done in our name. And to add insult to injury, private prison companies are profiting from it. Big time.
For me, there is nothing worse than the feeling of powerlessness–the recognition of a great wrong that I feel helpless to address. Surely other people feel the same.
What would it take to organize a national strike? A day when only critically important workers (policing, hospitals, etc.) show up? Those of us for whom morality means caring for our fellow humans rather than fixating on other people’s genital activity need a way to tell our broken, pathetic excuse for a government–in Howard Beale’s famous words– that we’re mad as hell and we aren’t going to take it anymore. That we aren’t going to sit by while an American government perpetuates unforgivable behaviors in our name.
I’m open to other ideas, but we need some vehicle to express our collective outrage, and send a message. We can’t just avert our eyes.
We are witnessing America’s Holocaust.
On a pragmatic level – & all of what’s going on is abhorrent, but to put this in dollars & cents – we should welcome undocumented folks. 1) They commit fewer crimes than native-born Americans, & crime costs money and 2) They pay far more in taxes than they derive in benefits. Of course DeVos has organizations that want to sell kids for adoption, but that’s in the name of her lord, and her shareholders, not the American taxpayer.
Agree with Theresa Bower’s comment and, yes, by definition, these ARE concentration camps. Can only concur with Shelia’s statement, “For me, there is nothing worse than the feeling of powerlessness–the recognition of a great wrong that I feel helpless to address.” I have no ideas on a vehicle to change this, other than the vote. May God have mercy on us all, especially the children caught up in this horrible situation.
No thinking person in this country will deny we have a serious immigration problem and Theresa is right when she refers to it as America’s Holocaust. The influx of hundreds and hundreds of Central Americans coming through Mexico to our southern border is but one segment of the current immigrant problem. This government has ignored, swept aside, enacted laws they never enforced, regarding growing immigration for decades through several administrations; both Democratic and Republican. Ignored problems, like trash, do not go away; they become major problems with no one answer to even begin to resolve them.
Former Republican Senator Mike Delph attempted TWICE to pass a bill fining employers who knowingly hired illegal immigrants and landlords who knowingly rented to illegal immigrants to address our local problems. Republican Senator James Merritt, who is currently running for the Mayoral seat in Indianapolis, cut those bills dead in a McConnellistic move claiming immigration problems is the responsibility of the federal government. But when the problem is eating away at state levels and the federal government is not taking action; the Constitution does provide for state action to ease or resolve problems. Then Senator Mike Delph attempted to get a bill passed here to aid students overburdened with ridiculous student loans; again Merritt stopped this bill. Immigrant problems were beginning in Indianapolis in the 1970s with one source of help; the Hispano-American Multi-Service Center worked with all immigrants and Immigration and Naturalization Services (INS) to aid their documentation. What source do they have in this city now?
To quote A.J. Cosentino; “May God have mercy on us all, especially the children caught up in this horrible situation.” And that mercy is needed at all local levels as well as the federal level where the basic problem escalates while people are sickening and dying.
lightsforliberty.org is coordinating demonstrations….
This is keeping up at night. I’m willing to try anything to put a stop to it. National strike? Yes! I’ve written to politicians. Every day that passes America is committing crimes against humanity.
Fox News is the brain(dead)child of Rupert Murdoch, a disgraced Australian “mogul” and Roger Ailes, a diseased and evil creature of ambition and self-indulgence who left the world in much worse shape. Nothing we’ve done since can remove the stain and the stink that these very bad actors left on Earth.
Add to this fetid mixture the horrible Donald Trump and his equally dysfragrant henchman Stephen Miller and you have the 21st centuries version of Buchenwald. It’s like the reports saying that the ovens are being built is just around the corner. The Trump administration is proving to the world every day what a horrible, wretch he is and it reflects on us all.
And here we sit, wringing our hands and planning demonstrations. Hell, those demonstrations have been going on for two + years and it’s only gotten worse. True evil like Trump and Miller don’t care about human dignity, only their agenda. AND YET millions of moths flock to this flame of horror. His “rallies” smack so strongly of the Nazi’s rallies of 80 years ago that it makes my skin crawl to see them.
A couple of questions: Can we wait for the 2020 election, an election that Trump might suspend due to his latest “national emergency”? Are there any real patriots who willing and able to step up and do the right thing? It’s only our national dignity, our democracy and our Constitution that are at stake, after all.
Thank you Aimee for giving us somewhere to go to try to help. My comment was going to be ‘just tell me what, where, and when I can do something to help. If anyone else has any suggestions please spread the word, this has to stop!
How many immigrants in this country; those brought here as babies or children and those who came here on their own, have tried to work within this government’s faulty immigration system and found no help? How many have worked for years with attorneys, costing thousands of dollars, to set up arrangements to become legal within this country or return to their homeland and begin legal action to return to their families here? They became trapped in Trump’s net of hatred and racism; afraid to try to return home but fear arrest at the border. Or; if they can return home to begin to return legally they will not be allowed to return to or with their families. Trump has set up a lose-lose situation for all; those who remain illegal and those who have worked and paid to become legal are in hiding; they have no way out.
I noticed the authorities herding handcuffed immigrants wearing jackets with POLICE ICE emblazened on the back. Are they police working for ICE or are they ICE working for police? Are they local or federal? ICE officers are part of Homeland Security; set up to weed out terrorists from immigrants seeking asylum and confiscate drugs and contraband at the border. Trump has them working on his personal agenda to remove all “Mexicans” by arresting entire families and separating them from their children then stating is is not this government’s responsibility to decent provide food, clothing, proper housing or medical care or soap and toothpaste for personal hygiene to prevent illness and disease.
If their situation is not an American Holocaust; what exactly is it?
As long as Mitch McConnell is in charge of the Senate, we have no legal choice but to wait for 2020 to rid ourselves of this blight on humanity. I don’t care who the Dems nominate, we owe it to history to dump 45 and we need to do it in a landslide.
Thanks for the link, Aimee!
From their website, “On Friday, July 12th, 2019, Lights for Liberty: A Vigil to End Human Detention Camps, will bring thousands of Americans to detention camps across the country, into the streets and into their own front yards, to protest the inhumane conditions faced by refugees.”
I would suggest mothers and kids lead this one for obvious reasons. Our elder patriarchs are failing the planets and inhabitants. In fact, they have been for decades.
AOC has been calling for the dismantling of ICE for its failings and the fact they are allowing this to happen. They can defy orders if they wanted. We haven’t reached full blown Nazism yet. Getting closer by the day. Trump doesn’t replace key personnel because he wants to fill those roles with himself. He’s solidifying his power.
One note from Sheila’s post, we are COMPLICIT in this crisis, first by instigating the crisis in the countries of origin, and secondly, by botching their arrival.
Greatness isn’t measured by GDP. Greatness is measured by doing the right things. Iran has called other countries to work with them to oppose our country and I hope they’ll get a long list of countries opposing the menace where we happen to reside.
“May god have mercy on us all…” That’s a cop out. If there is a god at all, let alone one who has the virtue of mercy, who is as well just, it would not grant mercy to the likes of Donald Trump nor Brian Kilmeade. Those among us who sincerely and mistakenly believe America is a Christian nation are likely in their churches this morning. Are they rallying themselves to take action for the relief of the evil being done to those at our border seeking what our Declaration of Independence declares, the self-evident truth that we all are created equal and endowed with certain unalienable Rights, among which are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness? I think not. If there are readings from the Jewish prophets that mercy roll across this nation as a result of OUR actions, and exhortations to “sell all that you have and give to the poor…then follow Jesus” will any do so? Today’s title, “Time to Take A Stand” is a hollow call to action unless we take action. Rise up from the pews, march to the offices of our Represenratives and Senators, the ICE office at Zionsville Road and 73rd St. Join the Poor People’s March, the Sunrise Movement. Preach the Green New Deal. Elect the most Progressive Democrat president (wish I could determine who that is). Turn out all the Republican AND Democratic Senators satisfied with their whiteness, maleness, privilege. Hondurans, Guatemalans, Hondurans seek Life, Liberty and the opportunity to seek Happiness. Those who wear MAGA caps betray the principle of the Declaration, and the teachings of thr prophets including Jesus of Nazareth, whom they claim they serve.
Vernon,
“A couple of questions: Can we wait for the 2020 election, an election that Trump might suspend due to his latest “national emergency.”
Only if you’re a fool. For example, just look at Oregon and the eleven Republican legislators who have joined hand in hand with militia groups from Idaho.
Bannon’s TRUMPENSTEIN is a sociopathic monster and must be treated as such. Only a society of fools would do anything less. He’s taken us back to medieval times. He needs to be dissected [to examine or analyze closely] publicly and then treated accordingly.
Wake-up before it is too late! It might already be.
#lights4liberty #dontlookaway #endusconcentrationcamps
This is being circulated on Twitter:
“New York Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in a Saturday tweet continued to insist that the Trump administration is “building mass concentration camps on the southern border.”
She and several Democratic colleagues in the House have moved to freeze funding to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (USCBP).”
https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/22/progressive-congresswomen-not-one-more-dollar-criminal-ice-cbp/
Does a child forget or perhaps better yet forgive those who forcibly yanked him/her from the clutches of his/her desperate mother?
The image of their helpless mother crying in anguish more than likely the last time they will ever see her again. Embedded memory lasts a lifetime and into the next generation.
And you wonder why a generation later the impulse to commit an act of terror targeting our grandchildren “out of no where”?
The legacy of Trump’s children has now been permanently set. There is no turning back. There will be survivors. Impulsive acts of abusive power deployed among defenseless and the vulnerable have long term consequences.
If they had such determined will to walk several hundred miles to escape tyranny, they cannot be defeated by such a weak and vengeful tyrant who covers his out of control obesity with tailored suits.
Our own innocent grand children will suffer the consequences. But at Fox and Friends, that isn’t current news worthy of selling to their advertising base and market share. For now, while basking in the sun of a luxurious beach sipping guava mojitos while children weep in the toxic detention camps on our southern borders.
We are not responsible, but we are accountable.
the private prison industry is getting about 400 bucks a day,per head,and they cant feed them? damn must be those high dollar white people who get that prison minimum wage that they get a cost overrun. im sure their boss is pinchin the pennies,so the wall street day trader stays flush at any costs. we had a system that worked,a few for loose,big deal, theres plenty of need for these migrants,in farming and restaurants and factory labor,thats been kicked real well during this tiraid by asshole and his henchmen,er,henchpersons…seems those who quit this side of the issue in trumps nursery were made to sign er,wear,a quiet gag. as long as we have media full on and advatisers willing to pay for time on their shows,we again,can start by gagging the advatisers. write them,tell em all,we have other options to their products,or,we can do alot better off like the migrants,without them. boycott,you bet. take some time to shove some words upthier wazooo on the face,twit,etc,comments directed at them as supprting this prison camp,for kids. especially kid related ads..the ACLU asks me for donations monthly now, and i do as i can. im kinda split ($) between the ACLU,im for candidates that want to cut off some incumbants (nuts) who see wall street as their constituents.my stagnat wages shows the smaller voice we have. but nothing beats the free ink to control the money greed,and whose supporting slime bags on OAN,newsman,er ax. and the lead goebbels,at pox,er fox news. there,POX news, sending a plaugue to weakminds..screw it, im tired of the rubbish,and tired of a enity such as fox undermining our democray by delibertly undermining the people who vote. the progressives who are in,and running ,make the voice,AOC is correct,unlike pox,she can use words that discribe it as it is,after all, shes from a world where she lived and worked with,past hollocaust victims,and families related to them. and they will never forget,when a goverment came for them.. and gathered them up,regardless of family and or living standards.
Concentration camps are not America. Trump and Pence and McConnell are not Americans. Trump’s entire cabinet are not Americans. The NRA is not American.
We are America.
They are building their own country.
We either allow them to or we stop them from that.
I hate to brag, if that’s what you want to call it. I mentioned this a few years ago on this blog and then was attacked by one of the commentators who was a psychologist: my father was a psychopath and my mother was a sociopath. Give me credit. I did try to run away.
I was court appointed in high profile cases by the Criminal Courts in Dallas as a specialist in EARLY ONSET SCHIZOPHRENIA as it applies to the INSANITY DEFENSE when used by SOCIOPATHIC DEFENDANTS.
PESCH VS. THE STATE OF TEXAS set the standards for the use of the insanity defense in Texas. I was the counsel of record both for the trial and appeal. That was 50 years ago.
You might want to LISTEN to what I have to say, after all these years, but I doubt it. It’s called COGNITIVE DISSONANCE. It’s very catching.
We, the people, have plenty of history to teach us that putting children in deeply hostile environments is not only dangerous for them but for us. Native people, Japanese Americans as well as black and brown minorities know that “detention” camps are prisons, concentration camps {Merriam Webster Def.-a place where large numbers of people (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard}. How many of the survivors will act as the seeds of future hostile actions to others in revenge?
Whether those prisons are real places with walls and armed guards or defacto prisons of red-lined neighborhoods and segregated schools/churchs/clubs, they are all places where the seeds of anger and distrust are sown.
I feel helpless to stop this cruel and inhumane police action by a morally corrupt group of people, including not just the policy makers and their political toadies, but my fellow citizens who are carrying out those inhumane policies in my name.
Voting can and is being corrupted and manipulated to allow these criminal actions in my name.
Is street action and protest our only recourse? Native people, Japanese American survivors and their families, black and brown minorities can show us the way. Please, please, please! We need to stop this.
Pete,
“We are America.
They are building their own country.
We either allow them to or we stop them from that.”
You’re right. But you better have something special when you march, CONCENTRATION CAMPS isn’t enough. Don’t forget Rabbi Abraham Cooper of the Weisenthal Center, a week or so ago on Fox, told us that it was inappropriate to use the word “concentration camps.” I know him personally, he’s full of shit.
We worship freedom but don’t hesitate to deprive others of it.
That’s called power.
The promise of it has become the chief product of entertainment media.
It seems we would abide by an international natural law to protect children. They’re minors. Their care is our responsibility. These camps are under the jurisdiction of the “Justice Department” , that’s Barr’s baby! How can they be held accountable? Aren’t they subject to oversight by Congress or the courts. Can’t the people file to the courts to intervene and allow vetted volunteers like the Red Cross to go in and care for the kids?
All I can say as a former “All-Star” baseball pitcher, it’s past time to play “HARDBALL.”
FINIS
Some of our leaders like to say that “This is not who we are” when referring to how we as a country are treating these refugees and their innocent children.
The silence of the majority reveals this is exactly who we are.
AOC has it right. These detention centers are concentration camps. America does have a history of concentration camps. Native Americans were rounded up and in many cases forcibly removed by the US Government or local militias from their land onto reservations. If these reservations interfered with manifest destiny, smaller reservations was the solution backed up again by the coercive power of the Government.
We have had an issue for decades with illegals or undocumented people either crossing the borders without permission or over staying visas. Federal elected officials simply ignored the issue. American Capitalism depended on these workers to drive wages down or keep wages down. This situation did have the effect of preventing unionization of unskilled or semi-skilled labor.
These people were cogs in the machinery of Steroid Capitalism, with no rights of recourse to exploitation. If they were injured or got sick from the job, a new cog was inserted and the old cog was tossed away.
A national strike? At the least it would make the Trump administration show its hand–police, thugs, dogs, injuries, hospital emergency rooms, edicts, firings, murders–before it is actually ready. And regardless of the cost in misery and tragedy, the strike would be an American light in the Nazi dark, a revelation of priceless strategic value. Ante up or fold. Denazification or die.
Pete,
“We worship freedom but don’t hesitate to deprive others of it.
That’s called power.
The promise of it has become the chief product of entertainment media.”
UR hitting on “all cylinders” today.
Trump is nothing. He’s a FAKE. He has no personal power. It’s just like you say, he’s a product of the entertainment media. All we need is the COURAGE to REVEAL IT. No doubt that is a risky business. But he can’t effectively fight back. He’s a COWARD, nothing more, nothing less.
If anyone should know, it should be me. I can smell them a “mile away.”
But isn’t doing nothing that is effective, riskier?
Make sure everyone votes.
Pete: “We worship freedom but don’t hesitate to deprive others of it.”
We may worship the MYTH of freedom; but in the same way we “worship” the MYTH of God, we worship freedom less than half-way. We talk the talk but will not walk the walk.
Ninety-percent of us don’t know the difference between freedom and license, and get both concepts confused with permissiveness. What we really worship is Ignorance, and Mu-mu Trump (he wears his suits like a mu-mu — to hide his flab) is Theological Ignorance’s Golden Cow.
Many thanks Sheila and many thanks to everyone that’s posted comments on this extremely disturbing subject. Mars comments are, as is usually the case, akin to a nail gun hitting in a nail but it’s really Nancy and her comments that are the grand prize winners today.
“Some of our leaders like to say that “This is not who we are” when referring to how we as a country are treating these refugees and their innocent children.
The silence of the majority reveals this is exactly who we are.”
What she keyed is exactly what I struggle with and all of this should be greatly alarmed by this particular aspect of this horror story. We stand by and watch, we throw up our hands, we pontificate but, so far, we as a society do nothing else. I could go on and compare us to all those good Germans that stood back aghast at the rise of the Nazis in the early 1930s but figured they’d wiggle their way through it somehow and everything would be OK, but there is no point really in making that comparison anymore.
We have to face the fact that we have and national leadership that is not only contrary to traditional American values but also seems to have no boundaries in regard to just how devious and vicious it truly is. This has to be stopped both for the obvious reasons but also for the damage that this does every day anyone around the world picks up a newspaper or accesses the web and reads stories about this crap. Every day is cruel for says continues in damages the reputation of this country all over that same world which, in turn, deeply damages the national security of this nation in ways that, I dare say or key, large swaths of the American people do not appreciate or realize.
Right now we have a resurgent Russia where its dear leader, our good old buddy Vladimir Putin, is working overtime along with his intelligence services to deliver a knockout blow to both our political system, our sense of national unity and purpose – all aimed at making us into an also ran on the world stage with all the unpredictability internationally that would go with that. We have the Chinese that will have, if they haven’t already, a largest economic engine on the planet which also threatens to push us into an also ran status. While we seem bent on continuing to twiddle our thumbs in the face of affront after affront to our traditional sensibilities as a nation and as a people created by our own national leadership time continues to roll on with our margin for error ever decreasing. Our future is far from certain and the longer we let things like this, quite simply human rights violations in regard to the innocent children seeking asylum in this country with their families to go on, that future could end up being very bleak very quickly with all of us having to work hard to recover or national image and our national polity under severe duress.
PS – many thanks to Aimee and pointing out a way to stand up against this vile thing.
Let’s ask the Unit d Nations or UNICEF to intercede.
And while Trump is inflicting misery and death on thousands at our borders, he’s worried that 150 might die if we take military action against Iran. What am I missing here?
I hate to tell you this… but you have been being told about this for what? more than a year and all that preceded… and NOW? is the time to take a stand? Meeting with V. Putin five times and not allowing American Press access to any of his meetings? Lying continually? Siding with our enemies? WHEN? when was the time to take a stand again? YOU WANTED IT BY NOT SAYING ANYTHING BEFORE – WELL YOU GOT IT. Now enjoy the fleas – you have slept with the DOG!
Follow the example of the people of Hong Kong! We have “seen something “ and will “say something “ – LOUDLY!
Take a look at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Levitt.
Trump is almost a carbon copy. Bill Levitt was also a worthless shithead: son of a rich father, opportunist, racist, philanderer, ass-hole, etc. etc. I ought to know, I dated his adopted daughter from his marriage to his longtime mistress, when I was a senior in the Wharton School of Finance and Commerce [just another name for the business school]at the University of Pennsylvania, Trump’s supposedly alma mater. I wonder if he ever graduated, but he probably did, since the President of the University when he was elected President, immediately, attempted to distance the University from him.
I guess this should be an important part of my anti-Monster resume. I definitely had an impact on Jo’s father. He told her, “if you continue to see him, I’ll kill you.” I was on the other side of the phone line when that jerk called her. She was really, really, nice. But I told her, “I didn’t think I was worth dying over.”
I believe it all comes down to intelligence gathering: Who understands the opposition best? I’m sure of it, after all these years of not losing, except for a few, unfortunate, exceptions like the one above.
More faux outrage. What have we been doing to humans in the ME for the last decade plus? What have we as a country wrought in South and Central America? When a Democratic Party President is in office again,the people here at this forum will summarily again become silent as they did when Bush’s policies continued under the Obama administration.
I guess it’s much easier to blame Putin than to admit our government’s policies (including under Democrat Party leadership) abroad have created an immigration crisis.
Vernon Turner:”Are there any real patriots who willing and able to step up and do the right thing?”
What do you want someone to do? Why don’t you take your own advice? Are you a True Patriot? What’s stopping you,Vernon Turner?
It’s as if we’re waiting for that magic word to break the spell.
Is anyone looking into the legalities? Is there enough to start impeachment process?
I can’t help but think Hillary would’ve had a formidable and effective remedy for the situation if she was our President. Perhaps she could’ve rebooted the slave markets here in America as she did in Libya?
Rev. Manuel,
“I hate to tell you this… but you have been being told about this for what? more than a year and all that preceded”
Try four years. And now after all this time, we’re going to march like Custer into the Little Big Horn, preferably, unarmed. And you’re being criticized for being armed. I’m not for guns, but I sure can’t blame you for your position. What a fucked-up situation.
“In the Land of the Blind, the one-eyed Man is King.”
We can’t go anywhere without leadership that can match up with Donald Trump. It is as simple as that. Anything less is nothing more than a “pipe dream.”
Gerald Bostock,
Yes, I am a true patriot. Are you? What are you offering besides slams and finger-pointing? I’ve paid considerable dues for this country. I’m 77 and have experienced decades of bad AND good governance and heroic acts. Why I’ve even performed a few of my own. Have you?
Patriotism to me is being politically active, voting and informing people of the plight we’re in and how to extricate ourselves from it. What have you done besides whine. Anybody can interpret doing the right thing their own way. But doing SOMETHING right is the key. Are you in or out?
Marv, what the hell was the purpose of your second post today?
Among our many problems comes from feminism and the inability of women to match-up physically with men. My longtime companion, who passed away, just about ten years ago, was a great feminist. The Director of the Women’s Center at the University of North Florida included Barbara as one of the top four women that she had known in a lecture she gave at the Unitarian-Universalist Church here in Jacksonville.
Understandably, women do not want to give up power to men, they want their own power. I support that. But it creates a terrible problem, as I have mentioned above. So far I have seen no answer to the problem. A few months ago I suggested on this blog that we should have a male-female partnership. That won’t work. It will in effect water down, potential, feminist power which will not be accepted. Barbara and I did work together on the completion of two, successful, sensitive problems, but not as a male-female partnership, but as long-time lovers.
I didn’t realize that until I had a terrific conversation with the young feminist who lives across the hall from me at my condo. I didn’t miss the look in her eyes when I mentioned the possibility of a male-female partnership.
I don’t know the answer, but someone better come up with one, PRONTO!
July 12 – NAtionwide. Please take note and pass it on to EVERYONE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd1V7iv1bKY
https://www.prweb.com/releases/embargoed_until_9_07_am_et_6_19_19_activists_launch_lights_for_liberty_to_demand_an_end_to_trumps_detention_camps/prweb16389344.htm
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=lights%20for%20liberty&ref=eyJzaWQiOiIwLjI3NTgwMzkwMzIwNDYyMTEiLCJxcyI6IkpUVkNKVEl5YkdsbmFIUnpKVEl3Wm05eUpUSXdiR2xpWlhKMGVTVXlNaVUxUkEiLCJndiI6ImJlZTA5ZjkzZmE3MzJjZmE1OWExY2I2ZDlmNDUwZDM4OTI0MjRlNDkiLCJlbnRfaWRzIjpbXSwiYnNpZCI6IjBjNWY0YjQwZDM2NDM2YjllMDFiODYxNGMzZWQyNmEyIiwicHJlbG9hZGVkX2VudGl0eV9pZHMiOm51bGwsInByZWxvYWRlZF9lbnRpdHlfdHlwZSI6bnVsbCwicmVmIjoiYnJfdGYiLCJjc2lkIjpudWxsLCJoaWdoX2NvbmZpZGVuY2VfYXJndW1lbnQiOm51bGwsImNsaWVudF90aW1lX21zIjoxNTYxMzEzMjA5MDQ0fQ&epa=SEARCH_BOX
Irvin,
“Marv, what the hell was the purpose of your second post today?”
Try to be a little more specific. You might be counting wrong.
Thanks Aimee — Let’s get the word out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd1V7iv1bKY
https://www.prweb.com/releases/embargoed_until_9_07_am_et_6_19_19_activists_launch_lights_for_liberty_to_demand_an_end_to_trumps_detention_camps/prweb16389344.htm
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Thanks Sheila!
Sheila, this is my contribution: every woman in America should contact at least one other woman in America. Together, we should travel to these detention centers, armed with diapers, toothbrushes, toothpaste, toilet tissue, facial tissue, towels, soap, onesies, t-shirts, panties, whatever we deem essential to health for these children. We could do that. On a national basis. More immediately helpful than a strike. And surely, there are people along the way who would shelter a person or two for one night, before we’d be on our way.
With due respect, I gave up on marches during the Vietnam War. I favor ballot box action. Talk of protests reminds me of Tom Lehrer’s Folk Song Army:
“Remember the war against Franco?
That’s the kind where each of us belongs
Though he may have won all the battles
We had all the good songs!”
Lester Levine is right, however – a Hong Kong sized protest might work.
More to the point, I am with you, Sheila. Sign me up for the general strike. We need something that dramatic to have a chance. The government will only respond if the elected representatives see their re-elections in danger – and then only maybe.
Marv – Rabbi Cooper is making the mistake of conflating Concentration Camps with Death Camps. They are not the same. He, as part of the Weisenthal Center, is very concerned that the Holocaust not be brushed off. One out of every three Jews int the world were killed and entire cultures in Eastern Europe were wiped out. It was a big deal, not “just another incident”.
So, I may cut him slack, but he IS wrong. Concentration Camps are an apt description. They camps are beyond evil, and as was pointed out – as terrible as the internment of the Japanese, at least the children weren’t taken from their parents. Most, but not all, were sent as family units to terrible camps.
As far as I can tell, Trump is trying to vie with his hero Jackson as the most racist, evil President.