Yesterday, I spoke at a gathering in Ft. Wayne, Indiana, sponsored by multiple civic organizations convened by Americans United for Separation of Church and State. Other speakers addressed the growing threat of this unAmerican movement and the multiple ways it is not Christian. I addressed the threat it poses to America’s constitution. My remarks are below.
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I’ve been asked to discuss the multiple ways in which Christian Nationalism is inconsistent with America’s founding documents—especially the First Amendment and the Bill of Rights. It’s always a good idea to define our terms, so let me begin by listing the basic premises of Christian Nationalism—a political movement that my friends in the Christian clergy assure me is anything but authentically Christian.
Christian Nationalists begin with the ahistorical insistence that the United States was founded as a Christian nation, and that one must be a Christian (or– let’s be honest here—a White Christian) in order to be a “true American.” Christian Nationalists reject Church-State separation and believe that civil government should impose their version of “Christian” behavior on all American citizens. That would entail—at a minimum—banning abortion, rejecting same-sex marriage (and for that matter, criminalizing homosexuality), and reinstating patriarchy.
Virtually every tenet of Christian Nationalism is diametrically opposed to the philosophy of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights. I won’t spend time today explaining how the movement distorts and mischaracterizes either Christianity or the actual history of this country. What I will do is “compare and contrast” some of the foundational provisions of America’s constituent documents—and especially the Bill of Rights— documents that reflect what I call “The American Idea”–with the absolutely contrary premises of Christian Nationalism.
What do I mean when I talk about the “American Idea”? What is that Idea, and what were its political and philosophical roots? Where did our Constitutional system come from, and how did it differ from prior beliefs about the nature of government power and authority? Answering those questions does require a visit to the history of America.
A while back, while I was doing research for one of my books, I came across an illuminating explanation of the stark differences between the original settlers who came to this country—those the scholar called the “Planting Fathers”—and the men who would draft our legal system—the men we call the Founding Fathers. As he pointed out, the Puritans and Pilgrims who first came to America had defined liberty—including religious liberty– as “freedom to do the right thing”—freedom to worship and obey the right God in the true church, and to use the power of government to ensure that their neighbors did too. But the Founders who crafted our constitution some 150 years later were products of the intervening Enlightenment and they had accepted its dramatically different definition of liberty.
Enlightenment philosophers defined liberty as personal autonomy—an individual’s right to make his or her own moral and political decisions, free of government coercion. In the Enlightenment’s libertarian construction, liberty meant freedom to “do your own thing,” subject to two very important caveats: you could do your own thing so long as you did not thereby harm the person or property of someone else, and so long as you recognized the equal right of others to do their “own thing.” The U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights are firmly grounded in that Enlightenment understanding of the nature of liberty.
It’s also important to understand that, as a result, America’s constitutional system is largely based on a concept we call “negative liberty.” The Founders believed that our individual rights don’t come from some gracious grants from government; rather, those rights are “natural,” meaning that we are entitled to certain basic rights simply by virtue of being human (thus the term “human rights”), and that a legitimate government is obliged to respect and protect those natural rights. If you think about it, the Bill of Rights is essentially a list of things that government—“the state”—is forbidden to do. For example, the state cannot prescribe our religious or political beliefs, it cannot search us without probable cause, it cannot censor our expression—and it is forbidden from doing such things even when popular majorities might favor such actions. That concept of a limited and constrained government is absolutely antithetical to Christian Nationalism, which seeks to use the power of the state to compel behaviors consistent with their version of Christianity.
Robert P. Jones, chief executive of the Public Religion Research Institute, is among the many scholars who have described why that Christian Nationalist approach is inconsistent with the American system, writing that –and I quote–“A worldview that claims God as a political partisan and dehumanizes one’s political opponents as evil is fundamentally antidemocratic, and a mind-set that believes that our nation was divinely ordained to be a promised land for Christians of European descent is incompatible with the U.S. Constitution’s guarantee of freedom of religion and equality of all.”
The Founders’ view of freedom of religion is incorporated in the First Amendment, which protects religious liberty through the Establishment and Free Exercise Clauses – clauses that, operating together, require the separation of Church and State.
Now, as fundamentalists like to point out, the actual phrase “separation of church and state” doesn’t appear in the text of the First Amendment. What they prefer to ignore is that that the phrase refers to the way the First Amendment’s two religion clauses operate. However, the concept of church-state separation had long preceded its incorporation into the First Amendment. The first documented use of the actual phrase was by Roger Williams, founder of Rhode Island, well before the Revolutionary War. The most famous use, of course, was that of Thomas Jefferson. When Jefferson was President, a group of Danbury Baptists wrote to him asking for an official interpretation of the First Amendment’s religion clauses. Jefferson’s response was that the Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause were intended to “erect a wall of separation” between government and religion. What is less often noted is that since Jefferson’s response was official, it was duly confirmed by the then serving U.S. Attorney General before it was transmitted to the Danbury Baptists.
Historians tell us that the Establishment Clause went through more than 20 drafts, with the Founders rejecting formulations like “there shall be no National Church” as inadequate to their intent. The Establishment Clause prohibits the government from making any law “respecting an establishment of religion.” The courts have uniformly held that this language not only forbids the government from establishing an official religion or state Church but also prohibits government actions that endorse or sponsor religion, favor one religion over another, or that prefer religion to non-religion, or for that matter, non-religion over religion.
Meanwhile, the Free Exercise Clause prohibits government from interfering with the “free exercise” of religion. It protects the right of Americans to choose our own beliefs, and to express those beliefs without fear of state disapproval. Read together, the Free Exercise Clause and the Establishment Clause require government neutrality in matters of religion. The Religion Clauses prohibit Government from either benefiting or burdening religious belief.
One way to think about the operation of the religion clauses is that the Establishment Clause forbids the public sector (that is, government) from either favoring or disfavoring religion, and the Free Exercise Clause forbids government from interfering with the expression of religious beliefs in the public square (that is, the myriad non-governmental venues where citizens exchange ideas and opinions.)
When states misuse their authority and play favorites, when they privilege some religious beliefs over others, people who do not share those privileged beliefs are relegated to the status of second-class citizens. Separation of church and state prevents adherents of majority religions from using government to force their beliefs or practices on others, and it keeps agencies of government from interfering with the internal operations of churches, synagogues and mosques.
As to that original purpose of neutrality, I’ve come across few explanations better than the one offered by John Leland. Leland, who lived from 1754 to1851, was an evangelical Baptist preacher who had strong views on the individual’s relationship to God, the inviolability of the individual conscience, and the limited nature of human knowledge. He wrote, “religion is a matter between God and individuals; religious opinions of men not being the objects of civil government, nor in any way under its control…Government has no more to do with the religious opinions of men than it has with the principles of mathematics.”
(Leland could hardly have envisioned our current government’s belief that it does have the right to interfere with the principles of mathematics and statistics…But that’s a scary subject for another day…)
The bottom line is that we Americans live in a diverse society, where different religions hold dramatically different beliefs about the matters Christian Nationalists want government to dictate. For example, in several traditions, including my own, abortion is permissible. Nevertheless, here in Indiana, where our legislators routinely ignore the official neutrality required by the First Amendment, lawmakers have passed a law that imposes a belief held by some Christian denominations on members of denominations and faith traditions who do not share those religious beliefs.
It would be a serious mistake to think that Christian Nationalism is only inconsistent with the First Amendment. The racism and misogyny that is built into it also run afoul of the 14th Amendment’s Equal Protection guarantees. The constitutional requirement of equal protection is intended to prevent majorities (or in this case, activist minorities) from using government to disadvantage individuals and minorities of whom they disapprove
Essentially, the Equal Protection Clause requires government to treat citizens as individuals, not as members of a group. In the United States, our laws are supposed to be based upon a person’s civic behavior, not on gender, race or other markers of identity. So long as we citizens obey the laws, pay our taxes, and generally conduct ourselves in a way that does not endanger or disadvantage others, we are entitled to full equality with other citizens. That guarantee of equal civic rights is one of the aspects of American life that has been most admired around the globe; it has unleashed the productivity of previously marginalized groups and contributed significantly to American prosperity. Christian Nationalism strikes at the very heart of that commitment to civic equality—it would privilege certain citizens over others based solely on their skin color and religious identity. It’s hard to think of anything more anti-American.
The conflict of Christian Nationalism with the Constitution and Bill of Rights isn’t limited to the First and Fourteenth Amendments. There is another incredibly important principle embedded in the Bill of Rights that we are already in danger of losing to the sustained assault of these pseudo-religious fanatics: the doctrine of substantive due process, often called the right to privacy or the right to personal autonomy.
I agree with the numerous constitutional scholars who argue that, although the right to personal autonomy or self-government is not explicitly mentioned, the principle is inherent in the Bill of Rights. That’s because it is impossible to give content to the rights that are specifically enumerated unless we recognize the doctrine of substantive due process –and that impossibility was explicitly recognized by the Supreme Court in 1965, in the case of Griswold v. Connecticut. Connecticut’s legislature had passed a law prohibiting the use of birth control by married couples. The legislation prohibited doctors from prescribing contraceptives and prohibited pharmacists from filling any such prescriptions. The Supreme Court struck down the law, holding that whether a couple used contraceptives simply wasn’t any of the government’s business; it was not a decision that government was entitled to make
The Court recognized that an individual right to personal autonomy—a right to self-government—is essential to the enforcement of the other provisions of the Bill of Rights. Justices White and Harlan found explicit confirmation of it in the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment—which is where the terminology “substantive due process” comes from. Wherever it resided–in a “penumbra” or in the Ninth or 14th Amendment—the Justices agreed on both its presence and importance.
The doctrine of Substantive Due Process draws a line between decisions that government has the legitimate authority to make, and decisions which, in our system, must be left up to the individual. I used to tell my students that the Bill of Rights is essentially a list of things that government is forbidden to decide. What books you read, what opinions you form, what prayers you say (or don’t)—such matters are far outside the legitimate role of government. The issue isn’t whether that book is dangerous or inappropriate, or that religion is false, or whether you should marry someone of the same sex, or whether you should procreate: the issue is who gets to make that decision—the individual or the government. Allowing any unit of government to decide such matters violates the most fundamental premise of the Bill of Rights and the philosophy that underlies our constitutional system. Yet that is precisely what Christian Nationalists want.
Let me be clear: Government has the right–indeed, the obligation–to intervene when a person’s behaviors are harming people who haven’t consented to that harm. (Mask mandates to protect public health, or requirements that students be vaccinated before entering a public school classroom are examples.) Otherwise, in the constitutional system devised by the Founders, government must leave us alone.
For a long time, secular and religiously tolerant Americans dismissed warnings about the growing fundamentalist assaults on that principle, confident that their right to self-determination was secure. The conservative Christian reasoning in Dobbs, the case that overturned Roe v. Wade, justified an invasion of that personal liberty, and it was shocking. For the first time in American history, a Supreme Court had withdrawn a constitutional right that had been considered settled for over fifty years.
As polarizing as that decision was, there is still very little understanding of its scope, and the fact that it threatens far more than the health, well-being and self-determination of American women.
In this country, different religions—and different denominations within those religions– have very different beliefs about the status of women and about procreation. What amounts to the Supreme Court’s elevation of a particular version of Christianity has understandably engendered an enormous and negative reaction–a majority of Americans, including a majority of religiously-affiliated Americans, disagree with the Court’s decision, and are even more opposed to emerging efforts to make access to contraception difficult or impossible. What is still not fully appreciated, however, is the fact that Dobbs was more than just an effort to force women to give birth—it was a devastating assault on the American definition of individual liberty, a definition which draws a line between legitimate and impermissible government actions.
If there is no right to privacy—no substantive due process guarantee–if government can force women to give birth, government can move to make interracial or same-sex marriages illegal. It can outlaw birth control. It can forbid divorce. In short, it can decide those “intimate matters” that the Founders and former Supreme Court decisions protected against government over-reach.
So far, my discussion of these issues has been necessarily abstract—a discussion of principles. Let me just conclude by reminding you of the challenge we are facing right here in Indiana, where we have statewide officials who are self-identified Christian Nationalists and who demonstrate daily that they neither understand nor respect the Constitution.
The most obvious example is our Lieutenant Governor, Micah Beckwith, who has pushed the racist White Replacement Theory, compared vaccination policies to Nazi Germany’s treatment of Jews, advocated that brown people crossing the border be shot, and accused the Indy Star, members of the left and Methodist and Lutheran ministers of wanting to cut off the private parts of children. When he served briefly on a library board, he tried to censor and remove books of which he disapproved, and he constantly engages in ugly diatribes against gay citizens. Most recently, he claimed that undocumented immigrants aren’t entitled to due process.
Todd Rokita, Indiana’s embarrassing Attorney General, has hounded and harassed a doctor who legally aborted a ten-year-old rape victim, and is engaged in a wide-ranging vendetta to root out efforts to foster racial and religious inclusion. I won’t go through Jim Banks’ numerous assaults on the American Idea, since as Fort Wayne residents you are undoubtedly already familiar with them. These men are so busy pursing a Christian Nationalist culture war, they don’t have much time to attend to the duties of their offices. They provide an excellent example of what government would be like in a country run by Christian Nationalists—aka, the Christian Taliban.
A country in the thrall of a Christian Nationalist worldview would look nothing like the America that most of us love and want to protect. We live in a dangerous time, but we cannot give in to fear and reaction, and we absolutely cannot allow Christian Nationalists, White Supremacists and other assorted bigots to jettison the legal system that has fostered American progress and been a beacon to oppressed people around the world.
Throughout our history, America has had to reckon with significant numbers of people who never accepted the premises of the system devised by the Founders. There have always been Puritans who–like the Planting Fathers–believed that they should be able to use government to control the lives and behaviors of everyone else. Throughout our history, we have always had to deal with America’s “original sin” of racism. We’ve had dark times. It wasn’t just the Civil War—I’m only one of the many old folks in this room who have lived through the Civil Rights movement, the women’s liberation movement, and the gay rights movement. American liberty has always been a work in progress—and has always been frantically resisted by those who have felt threatened and disoriented by social change. That said, the country has moved—granted, in fits and starts—toward realizing the ideals of liberty and civic equality set out in our constituent documents.
Because I am old, I often think of a folk song that was popular during the great upheavals of the 60’s. It was sung by Peter, Paul and Mary, and the chorus was “don’t let the light go out.” That should be our motto as we face this latest eruption of deeply unAmerican challenges from people who are threatened by diversity and dead-set against equality and inclusion.
Don’t let the light go out.
Thank you.

Thank you for this. It is one of your best.
Excellent analysis in light of recent events. Turns out that the Charlie Kirk shooter killed Kirk because he wasn’t radical enough for his right-wing extremism. Kirk’s nonsensical rants are all-inclusive to the definition of white, Christian nationalism posted today.
Now, one can hear the sharp intake of breath and the thundering of so many computer keys as Republicans take down their idiotic (Do they do anything else?) memes about how Democrats are to blame for Kirk’s killing. “OMG! He was one of us.”
Aw, forget it. I deleted my entire comments because they have no meaning to anyone but me and I am not allowed to speak my mind about Charlie Kirk’s Christian Nationalism even though I abhor his public killing. As a nation we are now those in the behind-the-curtain in the Land of Oz as we support Putin’s war on Ukraine endangering other nations and Bibi as the Israeli Prime Minister commits genocide in Gaza with our Christian Nationalism blessing and our own Navy blows up a private ship on the open seas…whatever their goal was.
Our light as a nation is flickering dangerously low and I am thinking of an old popular song during WWII; “When The Lights Go On Again All Over The World”. Trump is the cause of the flickering of other lights than our own as our civil and human rights to attempt to stop him are dwindling away.
Sheila was terrific as a speaker at our Forum. She has a whole new Fort Wayne following, with a deeper understanding of the danger that CN poses to our Constitutional rights.
Another great post, Ms. Kennedy. I hope it put out of mind the encounter with James Bopp.
The state Bills of Rights are more extensive than the federal Bill of Rights. They illustrate the wall between state and religion even better than the federal Bill of Rights. However, they depend on state supreme courts. I have not taken the time to read how Indiana’s Supreme Court approved school vouchers.
Christian Nationalism is a threat to not only non-Christian religions but to every other Christian denomination. That a Catholic dominated U.S. Supreme Court is aiding and abetting their goals is a gruesome irony.
Great encapsulation of what and how we are losing that has defined our country from it inception. Separation of church and state has always been high on my list of things to watch carefully in terms of chipping away at our Constitution, this time in the ugly form of White Christian Nationalism. Religion rears its ugly head again! Another piece of the puzzle is money; extravagant wealth at the top which now dictates so much in the way our government is run. It runs through sports as well, sucking the humanity out of it until the actual activity itself becomes a mere subset of the sport involved (this includes the algorithmically expanding online gambling). I digress, but it all seems somehow connected….
Imposing moral authority coming from Christianity on our neighbors doesn’t work in this country. Also, where is the Law of Attraction in that methodology?
If I saw that the Christian religion had much to teach about morality, I would be sitting in a church right now, rather than reading Sheila’s blog with a cup of coffee. I would be drawn to it as a spiritual entity. As statistics have shown for decades, people are exiting the churches in this country.
The rationale is that Satan has a grip on the people. The Great Deceiver is luring people away from the “Truth” to destroy our Christian Nation. Therefore, our country is declining rapidly because it is devoid of God. “It’s not fundamentally Christian enough.”
The more people push their ideas on others, the more we must all believe as they do, and the more people will resist. It’s called oppression. Labeling Trump as your Messiah doesn’t really help your cause, due to Trump being more likely to be the Anti-Christ.
I find it interesting that Kirk’s killer was actually to the right of Kirk. They believe that Kirk was a sellout. Nick Fuentes leads this group:
“The Groyper movement has been described as white nationalist, homophobic, nativist, fascist, sexist, antisemitic, and an attempt to rebrand the declining alt-right movement.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groypers
I went on X last night to see where the conversations were going, and the right-wing propaganda said the alleged murderer lived with a tranny changing from a man to a woman.
They (including Musk) are so desperate to keep this about “libruls.” The Alt-Right must control the flow of information to make sure the evidence doesn’t show that they are locked in a war between extremists and “moderates” of their movement. Apparently, Charlie wasn’t racist or Christian Nationalist enough for the groypers.
By the way, Trump, the Christian Messiah, presented Hamas with another ceasefire proposal, and when the leaders gathered in Qatar to discuss it, Israel assassinated the Hamas participants. This is the second time it’s happened. Why in the world would anyone trust Donald Trump??
Thank you , Sheila. So well thought out with what I think of as kindness. That’s kindness for ALL.
I’m sure that Yuval Noah Harari would not object to me borrowing some of his words that are pertinent to the news here and now.
“Humans think in stories rather than in faces, numbers, or equations, and the simpler the story, the better. Every person, group, and nation has its own tales and myths. However, during the twentieth century, global elites in New York, London, Berlin, and Moscow formulated three grand narratives that claimed to explain the entire past and predict the future of the world: the fascist narrative, the communist narrative, and the liberal narrative.”
“The fascist story explained history as a struggle among different nations and envisioned a world dominated by one human group that violently subdues all others. The communist narrative explained history as a struggle among different classes and envisioned a world in which all groups are united by a centralized social system that ensures equality, even at the price of freedom. The liberal story explained history as a struggle between liberty and tyranny, envisioning a world in which all humans cooperate freely and peacefully, with minimal central control, even at the price of some inequality.”
“The conflict among these three stories reached its first critical peak in the Second World War, which knocked out the fascist story. From the late 1940s to the late 1980s, the world became a battleground between the two remaining ideologies: communism and liberalism.”
“Then the communist story collapsed, and the liberal story was left the dominant guide to the human past and the indispensable manual for the future of the world-or so it seemed to the global elite.”
“The liberal story celebrates the value and power of liberty. It states that for thousands of years, humankind lived under oppressive regimes that afforded people few political rights, economic opportunities, or personal liberties, and which heavily restricted the movement of individuals, ideas, and goods.”
“But people fought for their freedom, and step by step, liberty gained ground.”
How does the present regime here relate to all of that? How does one account for MAGA and rampant populism? Why is MAGA in conflict with our liberal democratic Constitution?
All good questions that need to be wrestled with in each mind here and now.
Until MAGA, our liberal democracy defined us unequivocally as proud of our constitutional heritage and our current government.
MAGA is a hodgepodge of fascism and reverse communism because it is built on Christian Nationalism and fascism to build a coalition strong enough to have power and influence in our lives. One leg of the seat of power stems from the wealthy class, as it assumes control over the working class. Wealth buying influence. Another leg is nationalism, asserting that other states should be subject to the power of our wealthy too.
The problem is that the third leg of our seat of power under MAGA is built on entertainment, recreating the spectacle of the Roman Colosseum, by staging shows of hate and fear of the other, like immigrants, liberals, woke intellectuals, bespoke racism, and nationalism.
Personally, I view it as an eventual failure, similar to other Trump ventures that have been unsuccessful in the past.
Great speech, Sheila, well thought bout, and presented.
“The Great Deceiver” lives in the same place as does any version of a god: in the imagination. They are all fairy tale characters.
Thought OUT, sorry.
The PPM song is my favorite too. And, as I understand it, fairly historically correct — if one can trust the Old Testament.
Superb, Sheila, just superb! I’ll share with many….
You haven’t lost a step, dear Sheila. Just a couple of observations. As you know, we at The Indiana Citizen have spent the year trying to do what the political process didn’t: introduce Hoosiers to Micah Beckwith with our “One Heartbeat Away: Do Christian nationalists have an agenda for Indiana?” It’s a little thing, but we never capitalize the “n” in “nationalists” lest it confer onto those people more legitimacy than they deserve. If you believe, as they do, the idea of separation of church and state is a myth, where do we go from there? Where they’re going is open, obvious and straightforward. They are actually telegraphing their next move. The partisan school board bill’s most prominent supporter was LG Beckwith. They’re coming for our school boards, which control the curriculum, which controls the textbooks. They’re playing the long game and they have mastered the rules of that game–Micah Beckwith is our LG fair and square–and the aim to raise young people to believe in that “myth” and all the evangelical control that it brings.
I wish we were dealing with Christian’s like James Talarico from Texas instead of the toxic nature of Micah Beckwith or Jim Banks. Talarico pushes back on Christian Nationalism and at the same time appears a calm, patient, and caring individual who asks WWJD in any given situation.
Great post Sheila, we need to teach Civics in high school. Thanks again.
Christian church attendance is increasing, particularly among young adults like Millennials and Gen Z, who are attending more frequently and showing a greater openness to faith than older generations. This trend reverses previous declines and shows a significant shift since the pandemic, with many churches seeing a return of past members and an influx of new attendees, especially among non-white Millennials. While overall numbers are rising, the focus is on how younger generations are re-engaging, marking a potential new chapter for church attendance
This group is mainly attributed to non-whites, not White Christian Nationalists. Gen Z isn’t buying into the secular or materialistic meaning of success.
Sheila, very well stated, as usual.
Our Constitutional – “Ancestors” – Thomas Jefferson – wealthy Hypocrite – reminds me of Strom Thurmond + perhaps Ronald Reagan + maybe George W Bush
Who does the Law Protect? – Slaveowners – til 1865, White Folks -“legally” – til 1968 or shortly there after, Realistically – read: Richard+ Leah Rothstein’s – “Just Action…” -published 2023 – https://www.georgemarx.org/2025/09/just-action-excellent-book.html – through “defacto law” – continuing through today – in 99% of this country! So, So Many things – that Joe Biden did – had questionable “legality” – an with DT – Toxic “Christianity” – rules- Until Christianity – relates to “mainstream” – acceptance of ALL – Queer/Trans/Immigrants and things like guns become the Enemy – I’m not holding my breath! – My classmate D’s son – in Indy – with his Adoptive Son from China – and several other white children – is an “Amazing Christian” – however – until there is MAJOR resistance to – Christian Nationalism – within those “of Faith” -and Beyond – I have serious doubts@
Brilliant piece, Sheila. Thank you.